I’m late to this conversation but I really appreciated your thoughts in the podcast! One way to say it would be that it’s not a failing of women that women’s cycling doesn’t have a longer history, it’s a failing of the patriarchy that kept women out. We don’t need to pretend that women were racing Paris Roubaix a hundred years ago in order to appreciate women cyclists of the past and present. We know how incredible the peloton is now, and I’m sure women would have absolutely torn it up at Liège in 1892!
200K+ for any women's MSR with Cipressa and Poggio. No exceptions.
Thanks for the sage insight on the pod this week, it's always appreciated. My (less than) two cents is that cycling is a sport, regardless of whether men or women are riding the bikes, and the history belongs to everyone. Let's take the good parts and avoid the shit.
So I think that having the same races designated as "monuments" can be good, but I also think it would be cool for women to have their own. Binda has the history, and has the parcours to favor a variety of riders. I think they should declare themselves the "orginal" monument for women's cycling and really hype it up, and do whatever it takes to make sure all the top riders are there. And then everyone can discuss it and get the clicks (or listens, or hearts, or whatever the kids like these days along with The 1975).
Tilda was also quite good on that other podcast last week.
Completely agree that a short MSM for women is a look back to the bad days of women not being able to cycle Roubaix or climb Mountains. 220 should be the minimum - 250 the max - and anything less is just a bow to old fashioned sexism of the how will women have a pee variety .
I’m late to this conversation but I really appreciated your thoughts in the podcast! One way to say it would be that it’s not a failing of women that women’s cycling doesn’t have a longer history, it’s a failing of the patriarchy that kept women out. We don’t need to pretend that women were racing Paris Roubaix a hundred years ago in order to appreciate women cyclists of the past and present. We know how incredible the peloton is now, and I’m sure women would have absolutely torn it up at Liège in 1892!
Couldn't agree more!
200K+ for any women's MSR with Cipressa and Poggio. No exceptions.
Thanks for the sage insight on the pod this week, it's always appreciated. My (less than) two cents is that cycling is a sport, regardless of whether men or women are riding the bikes, and the history belongs to everyone. Let's take the good parts and avoid the shit.
So I think that having the same races designated as "monuments" can be good, but I also think it would be cool for women to have their own. Binda has the history, and has the parcours to favor a variety of riders. I think they should declare themselves the "orginal" monument for women's cycling and really hype it up, and do whatever it takes to make sure all the top riders are there. And then everyone can discuss it and get the clicks (or listens, or hearts, or whatever the kids like these days along with The 1975).
Tilda was also quite good on that other podcast last week.
Agree, it has to be long!! And yes agree that Binda could definitely play up to its history and become a monument on the women's side.
Glad you enjoyed the pod :)
Completely agree that a short MSM for women is a look back to the bad days of women not being able to cycle Roubaix or climb Mountains. 220 should be the minimum - 250 the max - and anything less is just a bow to old fashioned sexism of the how will women have a pee variety .